Friday, November 13, 2009

How Much Should I Offer On A Wholesale Real Estate Deal?

First off, we are going to talk about wholesale deals. Wholesale deals are where people first cut their teeth in this business. They are the simplest deals. Basically, you find a deal and get some comps on the property. You will find out what other houses have sold for in the same neighborhood. It is public record, and you can find this out at your local courthouse. So, find the deal, get your comps, and make the offer. But, sometimes it’s reversed. Sometimes when you are talking to someone, you can make the verbal offer right then and there to get the deal going. Then after you make the offer and it is verbally accepted, you can come back and get your comps and check out what the real value is. It’s called due diligence. It’s like doing your homework and making sure you don’t get yourself in a hole. You need to do research at this point. Any deal without due diligence, comps, research, or checking things out can get you in big trouble. I suggest you make the offer first though, and get your numbers going so you don’t waste time on deals that never get anywhere.

In most cases, the seller is going to tell you what he is asking for. You don’t have to make an offer or counter-offer on that first call, especially if you are new to the business. If he says he wants $120,000, you don’t have to know right off the bat what it is worth, especially if you are not familiar with that area. There are some areas where I know right away, what the homes are worth. When you are new, that is not going to happen. So, don’t be afraid to accept the offer on the phone and let him know that you are going to do some homework, you are interested in the house, and will get back to him soon. So, find the deal, get the comps, make the offer, get the house under contract, find a buyer, and close. Note that we are not talking specifically about wholesaling here, but that is the gist of it.

We are going to discuss how to know what the right price is. What kind of offer should you make? That is where the ARV comes in. You have probably heard someone ask what the ARV is. The ARV is the Average Retail Value. It is how much those comps tell you how much the house is worth. Once you study the area and find out how much houses are selling for, you are going to get the comps. That is the ARV.

There are two ways to do this, assuming this home needs some repairs. Here is the first option: Let’s take the selling price of the house, $150,000 (which might be the ARV), and you are trying to come up with how much to offer for this house. You are not planning on buying it, but are planning on getting it under contract and selling it to someone else. You have to leave enough profit in there so that someone else can do the repairs, list the house or sell it without listing it, and make their profit back. They have to cover all of their expenses.

One way to do it is to take how much you figure that next person is going to sell it for, let’s say $150,000. Then, you subtract 4-6 months ,worth of mortgage payments that they will have to make while they are paying for that house, subtract funding fees (points), subtract repairs, subtract both sets of their closing costs, subtract taxes, subtract insurance, subtract utilities, etc. Am I confusing you yet? That is why I have a better system for you.

Here is your second option: What we do is we take the ARV in that area, of houses in good condition and subtract 30%. It is ARV minus 30%. Then you subtract how much the repairs are going to be. The rule of thumb is ARV (after the repairs or aka after repair value), minus 30%, minus repairs. Then you subtract how much profit you want to make on the deal. If it is a $150,000 house, don’t expect to make $30,000 or $40,000 on it. You have to leave the $30,000 for the guy who is going in and doing all of the work, making all of the repairs, plus making the mortgage payments. You are just wholesaling this. In my eyes, if you make $4,000, it’s a good deal. I have made $20,000 on homes like these in the past, but usually you are looking to make only $4,000 to $5,000. You are just flipping these.

To recap, you will take the ARV of $150,000 minus 30%. That leaves you with $105,000. Then you subtract the $20,000 in repairs. You are down to $85,000. If you want to make $5,000 in the deal, you are down to $80,000. I would then offer $79,000 to whomever I am buying it from. I would sell it for about $85,000 though.

The bottom line formula is this: After repair value, minus 30%, minus repairs, that‘s how much most rehabbers are looking for. A lot of them are looking for a specific profit, say $30,000. ARV is very universal. Good Luck!